2 POGs Save the World Podcast
Two Army veterans—one left, one right—unite for the ultimate mission: tackling real-world problems with common sense, logic, and a healthy dose of military humor. 2 POGs Save the World isn’t your typical political podcast. Hosts Kj Bradley & Lance O'Neil bring unfiltered discussions, sharp debates, and tactical solutions to the chaos of modern society.
From politics and national security to sports and pop culture, no topic is off-limits. With battle-tested insights and zero tolerance for BS, these two POGs (Personnel Other than Grunts) prove that you don’t have to agree on everything to find real solutions.
Join the fight every Sunday at 8:30 PM EST, where the only thing sharper than the takes is the wit. Mission: Common Sense. Execution: Hilarious. Victory: Inevitable
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2 POGs Save the World Podcast
Chaos Afoot
When social media platforms collide with national security concerns, where should we draw the line? Our lively discussion begins with TikTok's unexpected resurrection after a planned shutdown, revealing deeper questions about America's priorities. While we panic over a Chinese-owned app, why do we barely notice that the same nation owns vast swaths of American farmland, properties, and infrastructure?
The conversation shifts to expectations for Trump's administration, where our guest expresses hope for reforms in taxation, healthcare costs, and education. But our hosts challenge these optimistic outlooks, drawing on historical patterns that reveal the gap between campaign promises and governing realities. One host pointedly asks: "If you hold up their resume blindly, what qualifies them for that position?" This ignites a passionate debate about meritocracy versus relationship-based appointments that cuts to the heart of how our government functions.
Perhaps the most thought-provoking moment comes when discussing "America's most hated man" – revealing that Martin Luther King Jr. once held that dubious distinction according to a 1967 poll. This historical perspective casts our current polarization in a new light, suggesting that today's villains might become tomorrow's heroes. Despite sharp disagreements throughout, our conversation concludes with a shared hope for national healing and unity beyond partisan divisions.
Whether you're politically engaged or simply trying to make sense of our divided country, this episode offers authentic perspectives that challenge assumptions across the political spectrum. Subscribe now and join our weekly conversation as we navigate these turbulent times together, always seeking common ground without sacrificing our principles.
What do you want to do tonight?
Speaker 2:The same thing we do every night. Pinky, Try to take over the world. All right, yo, let's get into it. Try to take over the world.
Speaker 1:You're preaching freedom. Try to take over the world.
Speaker 2:And greatest chaplain in the world, mr Lance O'Neal, take over the world. Yo yo yo, what up, world, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up. It is Sunday, 8.30 Eastern. Do you know where your folks are? Of course you do. We are right here with you and there's no greater place to be than you with us and us with you. Once again, it's your boy, kj Bradley, and the world's greatest chaplain, Mr Lance O'Neal. Chappy, what up.
Speaker 1:Hey, how are you, KJ? Are we having a good week?
Speaker 2:Oh man, it is amazing. I am excited because tomorrow we get to celebrate the world's most hated man, and I am so excited. I am so, so excited. We look forward to this. What's going on with Elon Even?
Speaker 1:more you think the world's most hated man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got that. We celebrate the world's most hated man tomorrow and I am so excited we got a special guest joining us today. You guys have seen her before. Miss Allie McPherson has joined us before the election. For those of you guys who don't remember her, her and my boy, elton, had a great, robust conversation that stirred up, stirred up some, some, some great conversation. But we brought her back post-election to hear her thoughts, man, and I can't wait to jump into it. Chappy, you ready to bring her in? Yeah, let's go, hailey, what up, girl, how you doing. It's so good to see you again, hey what's up guys?
Speaker 2:hey, I'm good oh man, how has, how has life treated you in these last what 90 days?
Speaker 3:90 days, very, very good. We moved into our new home and we're just trying to get settled. And Trump won, so it's good. Congratulations, all right.
Speaker 2:We got 90 minutes. We got four topics. Allie, since you are our guest, I will let you choose. So I'll give you the topics and then I'll let you pick. We'll go topics and then I'll let you pick. Um, we'll go. So we have um depth of tiktok, administrative expectations, your thoughts on the confirmation hearings, false flags and then celebrating the most hated man in america, where do you want to? Start good fun times, let's start with.
Speaker 2:Let's start with tiktok tiktok, here we go all right so, tiktok, I'll get us kicked off. So for those of you guys that don't know, um, tiktok was supposed to be dead today. Um, last night, um, a lot of people went into it and uproar and panic because they were unable to, uh, log into their tiktoks. And if you tried, you got a pretty wonderful note saying that, due to administrative policies, we were unable to utilize the platform. But, just like Jesus on Easter Sunday with the Easter bunny and all her wonderful eggs, tiktok wonderfully rose on Sunday morning and you were able to log back in. So the beast is back. I for one am excited because it is one of our most engaging platforms. So shout out to our TikTok family we are glad to see you guys back. What are your thoughts, man? Are you guys excited that TikTok's back, or what are your thoughts, allie? Why?
Speaker 1:don't you go first? Yeah, I.
Speaker 3:Allie, why don't you go first? Yeah, I, you know I've got kind of mixed emotions about it because I think TikTok is very, very good on some points but there's a lot of crap on TikTok. So I know my daughter, she you know she gets on TikTok and she does. You know the fun little videos and stuff like that. And you know every gets on tiktok and she does. You know the fun little videos and stuff like that. And, um, you know, every once in a while something slips in there that's totally not child appropriate. So, um, you know I'm good with tiktok. I think it's fun, it's. You know, I I didn't want to see it get banned. Um, didn't understand the whole thing, but I mean it shut down. We couldn't get on, for up till what? About three hours ago we couldn't get on, but but we're on now. So I mean I'm good. I've heard that. What is it Mr Beast Is it? Is that his name? Mr Beast, like has is trying to buy it.
Speaker 3:He put it in or something, yeah, and I was like, hey, so I'm not sure how to feel about that, but hey, it is what it is, it's fun.
Speaker 2:You got a couple of guys putting in a couple of bids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my kids were like oh, my 11-year-old told it, no, he is, he's buying it. I was like hold on, Let me go look, you got Mr Beast. I was like hold on, let me go look, you got Mr.
Speaker 2:Beast. Mr Wonderful is putting in a couple of bids. I put in a $34 bid. I'll let them talk me up to $42. But after that I'm out.
Speaker 1:That beat my $12.
Speaker 2:I don't think I can compete too much. What's your thoughts, Lance?
Speaker 1:I got a couple of thoughts, but I think I'll wait until the back end on this. Well on, uh tiktok. Let's instead of tiktok, let's for a minute give a shout out to ctr media network, who we are actually live on.
Speaker 2:I just checked the site on on on row crew shout out to our tiktok man. I'm telling you I gotta get back used to that. Welcome to our ctr media network family. This is our second live episode for our Roku family. Welcome you guys. We are definitely glad to be a part of the network and the family. We'll get it together, I promise you.
Speaker 1:I just We'll give it thumbs up, stars, whatever it is. So my thoughts on TikTok Okay, as far as TikTok goes, I'm not a big TikTok person. I think I've made a half dozen and they were political and I got the people yelling at me on one side and the other people yelling at me on the other. I did one where somebody cut that everybody's kind of missing is that this ban was put in place and held in place by the Supreme Court of the United States, and so if there's a ban that's put into place, that's tried and upheld, I don't know how a President Trump or President Biden could write just a piece of paper that says, no, tiktok's good, because the whole point of it is that it has to be divested from the communist Chinese ownership, and so I don't think they've done that yet, and so I wonder how we get to the point where, ok, it didn't need to be turned off yesterday, and now it's turned on today, and it's on with a message that says, hey, we hope to keep going because of President Trump. And I've seen people go oh, look, even TikTok bending over backwards to work with Trump. It's like, well, yes, everybody is, he's the new president, you don't want to be left out in the cold.
Speaker 1:But at the same time, I do question what the mechanisms involved are. Because, as somebody who actually appreciates the Constitution and tries to understand the Constitution, I'm not sure if the Supreme Court says, hey, there's a ban and it needs to be, and we're going to uphold this ban. Unless you do this and the this has not been done, I'm not sure how it stays alive. And if it gets sold, fine, I don't care who owns TikTok. Honestly I texted KJ this a couple of days ago why doesn't somebody start a new media platform called TikTok and spell it the right way T-I-C-K, t-o-c-k and go, hey, just come on over here. But overall, it's one more thing. I'm sure the kids are going over to Instagram or I don't even know there's one red something that people are going over to, which I kind of laugh at because it's another communist based platform.
Speaker 1:It's, I'm sorry, chinese based platform. Let me be real clear when I say that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We have to we have to be careful with our words. Um, I'm, I'm a little bit torn. And then we we've seen with the, the, the SCOTUS and the way they work, rules have somehow been I don't want to say broken, but they've been massaged.
Speaker 1:Ignored.
Speaker 2:Your words, not mine. I am trying to be more understanding going into this new administration. I'm sure there's going to be some kind of way that this can work out. I don't have an issue with it. I just think the focus is a little off right, like we can say okay, well, tiktok is a national security concern and it's our highest priority. And this, that and the other, and I'm like cool, great china owns what? 380 000 plus acres of farmland china?
Speaker 2:military bases china owns, you know, over 20 million properties across the united states, this corporation, but we're worried about TikTok. So you know what I'm saying. I'm kind of like, okay, well, how big of a threat is it? I get it from a personal data standpoint, but it's like if you're going to let them, you know, if you're going to let them own the homes and own the farmland and, you know, be main investors in in a lot of our corporations, what the you know what's the difference at this point.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying it's just a bunch of you know, just a bunch of smoke and mirrors for me and in my opinion, because it's like, at the end of the day, you're still. You know they, they still have access to all our main you know waterways. They still have access to all our food sources, all our infrastructure.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that I think the biggest difference is just simply somebody is somebody decided to come out and sue, and that's probably the biggest difference. I agree with you as far as the security stuff. I think it's ridiculous every day. But at the same time, people are stupid. And when you have people say I don't want the government to be able to track where I am and what I'm doing at all times, and goodness forbid, they're able to do anything that no people don't understand, I mean it's open source. If you want to go look up what the NSA can do, go look up what the NSA did. It's not a surprise what anybody in this country is doing.
Speaker 1:I find it curious that we're supposed to be a nation of laws, but if it doesn't, we can have something, go all the way to Supreme Court and then, if it's ignored, so what you have? Congress. Let's go back and let's be political for a minute. We could probably count on multiple hands between us how many times Fauci lied while he was giving testimony to Congress about multitude of things. Has he been charged with lying to Congress? I'm pretty sure that's against the law. I think it is. I can't tell you the statute, but everything I've ever been told is if you get called in front of Congress, you get sworn in and there are perjury laws in place, and yet I haven't seen anybody. And that's not just Fauci, don't get me wrong, just many, many people.
Speaker 2:If we ever started to hold account to people who lied to Congress, we would never get anything done. I disagree. It's almost expected to lie to Congress now, even not getting ahead of ourselves, but even going into the confirmation hearings. You're almost expected to lie to Congress. I've never seen, between this administration and the last two administrations we can even go back to the last three administrations I've never seen so many candidates blatantly outright lie and pervert the truth or contort the truth for confirmation hearings. Like bro, we got you on tape. This is Republican and Democrat, both, so I don't want you to figure I'm picking either side, but for sure they come up there and just stonewall and be like oh no, say that like. But, sir, I have transcripts and I got you on tape. And he's like oh well, you, you misinterpreted what I said. Like no, you're right here, it's just at this point. It's like there are no rules and they're all suddenly enforced.
Speaker 2:Like you know one of what was one of the, the congressman who came out and was like he said something about how many, how many senators have come up here and voted at night, drunk? What are you talking about, man? Are you out of your mind? Who blatantly said that. And then he said it as though you know, as though it's like some we all know.
Speaker 1:I'm like we don't have. We don't have that on the list. But this week the, the speaker of the House, came out and he relayed a story where he went in He'd been asking for a meeting with President Biden. He'd been stonewalled. He finally kind of forces his way in, he gets in there and he's got the VP in there, he's got the chief of staff and finally Biden kind of said hey, you guys need to step out for a minute. And they all kind of freaked out and he stepped out.
Speaker 1:And then the speaker says you know, hey, you know what about liquid natural, liquid natural gas and this and that and what you know? You paused it. And Biden says no, I didn't. He says yeah, you did. He said I never signed that. He goes, he goes, sir, I can have your secretary go to. I promise you. You signed an executive order halting liquefied natural gas to europe and biden was saying no, I didn't. Now, one as disturbing as that story is why was he holding on to this story for over a year now I get there's some stuff that you're going. Well, I I didn't want to embarrass the president, but you know what? That's probably information that the American people should have known that the president was either manipulated into signing an executive order that had really serious national security effects, or he was. He didn't know about it and they did what Radar used to do to henry blake and said here, just sign here, sign here, sign here, sign here, sign here really.
Speaker 2:And biden said, yeah, okay, trusting his staff I mean the last three months you've had senators come out and openly a bit that they don't read. They don't even read the damn bills that come across the board. He's like, oh, who has time to read these bills? Like dude, what the hell? So to to. To honestly expect anybody in our legislature, especially our elected officials, to do anything is I think, ambitious of us at this point.
Speaker 1:They are just talking.
Speaker 1:But that's why you have staff, all right. So, kj, we've both been in the military. When you get in front of a commander, the first thing he says is I don't want to know all that, I don't care about all that, give me the bluff, give me the bottom line up front. And if you can't say what the bottom line up front is in 10 to 15 seconds, the commander says you know what you can leave. Go, get your stuff together and then you can come back Right.
Speaker 1:So to me it's much more on the staff, and I think everybody that has been around Biden and so you know, even the again to go back to TikTok, how many of these people were told well, this is what we're actually doing, this is what we're, and the congressmen and they're just like oh okay, you have to trust your staff, you have to be able to rely on people, and I've been saying this for years. That is why the swamp is the way it is is because of the staffs. It's not necessarily the congressman that comes in and gets manipulated by other people in Congress, it's. He gets manipulated by staff and his staff gets manipulated by the other staff because, like, realistically, whoever's in charge of the congressional office, like you just said, do you really think they have the time to read every single bill when it's like a budget? They drop a budget on your desk that is 4 000 pages and you're supposed to read that in three days. You can't do it. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff and that's where I go back to. Kind of the accountability is if TikTok is continuing, it continues on. I just look at that and go, ok, I'm fine with it as long as they have met the standard.
Speaker 1:This is the Supreme Court upheld by federal judge. And don't get me wrong, there's lots of federal judges I absolutely hate. I think it's ridiculous when a federal judge can come in and say, well, I interpret it this way, and then suddenly it's screeching halt to the country for whatever it is. I don't want to give an example, necessarily, but I could. And most of of the time those are done when it's somebody legislating from the bench and and that's why when I hear these congressmen go back, like Senator Mike Lee from Utah saying, look, we need to get back to the legislature doing his job, they need to be the ones who are writing the bills, writing the laws, and then it goes to, goes to the president, he signs it into law and then the courts decide is that constitutional or not? It's almost like there was an old 70s cartoon talking about how bills were made, and now that doesn't exist anymore. Yep, that's what money gets involved, ollie what do you think?
Speaker 2:that's what money gets involved, Ali. What'd you think?
Speaker 3:You know, I think it comes down to I don't, I think it's been forgotten how the government and how everything is set up. Like everybody I've heard so many times, you know you're not above the law, you're not above the law. It seems like a lot of people are above the law, paying people off. However that may be, but it's, I don't I. And then I think the American people for the most part, including myself, don't trust the government period. Like, even if there is a law that's put in, I mean, they're going to change it to fit what they want it to be. On either side on, you know and I'm just not saying Democrat or Republican, I think everybody just takes little bits and pieces of the law that they really want to enforce and then they go with that instead of, you know, you know, having the president sign it, it goes to the Supreme Court, it goes into law, just like the same same thing. You know, having the president sign it, it goes to the Supreme Court, it goes into law, just like the same thing. You know, as that just came to my mind, the big government. Why do we have governors in each state to govern their state? You know? So I, I don't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it comes down to trust. I think that there's good people on both sides, both Democrat and Republican, but I also believe that it just comes down to nobody trusts the government anymore, nobody. You know you can break the law and nothing's going to happen, except if you're Trump, then it's going to go and whatever, but nothing's going to happen. You know, like everything that I go back a little bit, you know, with Hillary Clinton, you know it was proven. She, you know, deleted emails. Nothing's ever happened. Nothing's ever happened to people on either side.
Speaker 3:And I think it's a trusting. I don't trust the government. My I mean my hopes are a little bit brighter because I am thrilled. You know that Trump won and he's getting in. But on the same hand, if he messes up and he screws up, I don't have a problem with saying you know what? I made a mistake by voting for him, but at the time that was my choice for him, but at the time that was my choice. But we just don't trust. We don't trust Congress, we don't trust the Senate. It's everybody. I think they forget, I think senators and congressmen, I think they forget they were put in by the people and then, once you get there, you do what you promise to the people, not what you want, and I think that's what it's turned into and we need to drain the swamp totally like start over. I mean, how do you do that? You know there's no way to to do that.
Speaker 1:Yes, there is. There's a simple way, but nobody wants to do it. I've put this out before. All we need to do is all we need to do is move the federal government to Wichita, Kansas, and suddenly the swamp will be drained.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 1:Why does nobody take that seriously?
Speaker 2:What are your expectations? What are some reasonable expectations as the new administration, as 47, takes over and kind of gets his feet up on the road. What are some reasonable expectations that you expect, you know, from the POTUS and his team?
Speaker 3:Well, first of all, I go by what he ran on, you know, I hope that taxes do get lowered. I hope that the military does become stronger. I hope that he does take care of our seniors. You know, as far as you know medication goes. You know that's a big thing for me with my parents, I mean when they can't, you know, when they can barely afford food, because you know my dad's medications are $1,300, $1,400, $1,500 a month and they're on, you know, they're on Medicare. So I'm hoping there's a whole, you know change in that. I hope there's a lot of changes in the education system and what is being taught.
Speaker 3:I'm really blessed that my daughter is in more of a private school here in Louisiana. You know where history is taught home ec is taught. The older kids have to take, you know, tax courses. They stand and say the Pledge of Allegiance, they sing the National Anthem every morning. It's focused on the education for the children, not, you know, what can the teachers get? And I'm not putting down teachers because I couldn't be a teacher nowadays there's no way but I think the teachers need to teach. So, going back, I think the education system needs to be um, something needs to be done there.
Speaker 3:As far as taxes, medicare Um, oh my gosh, there's so many. My hopes are very high and my expectations are very high. Um, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. You know, I might be really disappointed, and if I am, then I'll. I'll be upfront and honest with it, but I just know that we can't have what we've had for the past four years because it's it has. For me, it hasn't been good and for a lot of other people it hasn't been good. So really, any change from the last four years would be awesome.
Speaker 1:I think Greenland needs to be executed, canada needs to be pulled in, panama can okay. Honestly, as far as expectations go, for me there's probably really only one that I legitimately hope he and I'm going to say he in this case, because Trump is responsible for this the executive branch of the president's job has some specific things in defending the Constitution of the United States and the sovereignty of this country are the two most important. They need to secure the borders in a way that we know who's coming in, who's going out, and we need to do something about the people that are here illegally. Now people will say, oh, you're just, you're heartless and a Christian would never. Jesus was a refugee. It's like hold on now. Yeah, so well, you see stuff like that right. And so I look at it and I say again I think the easiest way would be for the legislature to pass a bill that says any company or individual who hires somebody who's illegally in this country, knowingly or not, will be fined one thousand dollars per day, per instance. And okay, all that means is I better be dang sure that who I'm hiring as a company is here legally. And what is the difference between that and some guy that's 25 years old and he's brought up on charges for statutory rape and he says whoa, whoa, whoa. She told me she was 19. And it turns out she was only 16. And what did the court say? Well, it's your responsibility to verify how old that person is. And even if that person had a fake ID, the courts don't care. The courts are like she was 16. She lied to you or not. She was 16. She couldn't agree to this and so it's on you. So if you have these companies who say, well, I didn't know, we had somebody, I hired somebody who and again, this isn't just somebody who came across the southern border. It can be somebody who came across the northern borders, can be somebody who has their visa has expired. There are ways to do this. And again, I am fine with immigration. I love legal immigration.
Speaker 1:Everybody in this country was a legal immigrant, and even the people who say not Native Americans, they were here originally. Guess what? At some point they came across the bridge, the ice bridge. They came from Asia too. So at some point everybody moved somewhere.
Speaker 1:There's no such thing as the original Adam and Eve individuals who they get to lay claim to everything. Ok, not, not in the legal terms. I'm not saying anybody who's christian says there's a real adam and eve, that's cool. Hey, I'm religious as well and that's fine. What I'm saying is we get to lay legal claim because adam and eve are going hey look, let's go back. Here's what we figured out where the garden of eden is. It's right here, and now it's mine, because I can trace my line back to Adam and Eve. So if you go back far enough, there's always somebody that can claim the land.
Speaker 1:But we are a world that moves forward. History has always been written by the winners. You have the country and the borders are drawn basically by the strongest country or at the point where the country says, ok, we've won and we're going to make a deal. People forget when people talk about Mexico and all that the US not only invaded Mexico, it went down and basically captured Mexico City, and then they said here's what we're going to do. You're going to give us this land up here in exchange. We're not going to take everything, we're going to let you have Mexico. Now there was some stuff as far as Europe and all that, but ultimately that was the case. The US right now we could have all of Mexico as part of the United States. If, at the time, the government had said that's what we're going to do. We conquered you.
Speaker 1:It's ours, it was negotiated we had some you had some negotiators coming in well, but that was the thing is. But as far as might makes right, we had the right to do it and that's all I'm saying. So at this point, I would be happy with every. Every border guard that is on the border gets a nice little bump in pay. I would be happy with a reduction in everybody that works for ICE or Border Patrol that's in a desk job in DC. I'd like to see a reduction of that force down to about 30%. And if you want to stay in your job, down to about 30%. And if you want to stay in your job, that's fine. You get to move to Texas, arizona, montana, wherever right IRS agents.
Speaker 1:I'd love to see a slash in the IRS agents. I don't know. I think there's something to be said for a flat tax, but if you're not going to do a flat tax, I think there should be something as far as the IRS agents go and say all right, for every person that you audit that makes less than $50,000 as an agent, you need to audit two people that make more than $200,000. So go for the big fish, go get the corporations. I just don't know how much of this will happen because again, it has to be the legislature.
Speaker 1:Who is really driving the train here and 2016,. The legislature was not MAGA. They are much more now and so and when I say MAGA, I'm only saying in support of Trump, I'm not saying like that. They are themselves. You know the MAGA people, but I think if you have a traditional Congress that supports the president of their party, I want to see President Trump over the next two years, say what are our 10 most important things? Let's focus on those 10. Let's get the, because I think I've said before, I think Obama made a huge, huge mistake because he used so much time and so much political clout on Obamacare for the first two years. Not only did he have Congress, he had a super majority. He could have come out. He could have ratified abortion. He could have done. He could have come out. He could have ratified abortion.
Speaker 2:He could have done. He could have done almost anything. No, he couldn't.
Speaker 1:You know, you and I both know good and damn well, he couldn't have done it well the fact that he could have done almost anything that democrats were oh, he could have posed anything.
Speaker 2:But you know, when somebody gets up there and they start shouting immediately, all right, let's not kid ourselves, right, we can leave all the optimism aside. Even with a damn super friend, super majority, there were still obstacles, right, and the fact that he had Obamacare passed was a miracle in itself, and the fact that it took two years to get passed with the super majority shows you just how hard it was to get past. You had the speaker of the house come out and says their number one, priority one, is to make sure that he gets not a single law passed.
Speaker 1:And he was damn near first of all that was. That was mcconnell. Well, that was mcconnell after he lost this, but that was after he lost the super majority.
Speaker 2:Let's not wave came in, but let's not act like mcconnell was not any less powerful.
Speaker 1:Senator mcconnell and paul ryan were the two most powerful no, at that point it didn't matter, kj, when you have a super majority, you can do things you can't do the rest of the time.
Speaker 2:Then, lance, why did it take two years to get a bone care passed, if you could do it?
Speaker 1:Because Democrats didn't back around because they were looking at all the other stuff as well they want. There are certain things you can do with a super majority you can override.
Speaker 2:Lance, you're full of shit. With a supermajority Listen, with the supermajority Republicans got the SCOTUS pushed in two weeks. Two weeks, you know why? Because, because, yes, they got. They got their confirmation.
Speaker 1:No, aj, we're talking about different things here. Hold on, let's clarify what a supermajority is.
Speaker 2:You're talking about a supermajority. You're talking about having the majority in both the Senate and the House.
Speaker 1:No, that's not what a supermajority is. What are you talking about? A supermajority is when you have 60 senators of one party. Yes, you have the House, you have the Senate, but the Senate has to have those 60. Yes, yes, so Obama is the only president that has had a super majority in decades. He's the only one. Yes, and he was still thwarted. Why? Because his own party.
Speaker 2:Do you really think the Democrats are that damn incompetent? Do you think out of 100? Years of legislation those four years. They were that grossly incompetent that they could only get one piece of legislation pushed.
Speaker 1:Hold on. First of all, it wasn't only one piece, it was one major thing, and what I'm saying is because that was such a massive thing to change to override the way health care worked in America. Health care in America is is one of the top, I think, three industries in the entire country. Health insurance and when we're including health insurance, all that because that money's involved and because it's such a big deal, I think if if Obama had said, look, he passed it. He got it with 60 votes in the Senate, all Democrats, zero Republicans and they passed in the House and got a zero Republican support there. Stuff like that happens. Right, okay, so he got it passed. But what I'm saying is if he and the Democrats had said, all right, if we have these 10 things, what are our 10 biggest things? And immediately after two months they said, gosh, this Obamacare thing, I don't know if we can get this done. Let's look at number two. What's our number? And I don't know what number two at the time would have been. Let's look at number three. Let's do that.
Speaker 1:So what I'm saying is I don't think Trump can even get this stuff done very easily unless he has the Republicans basically 100 percent behind him. And then, even if that happens, there are certain things that a Republican Congress will not get behind because it's not in their own interest. If you were to say, we are going to process a, we're going to do a flat tax, you would never get it. We're going to have term limits. You're never going to get it. Now, could Obama have gotten term limits passed? Let's go with this. Could Obama have gotten a bill passed, or even a constitutional amendment, potentially passed in 2010, to have term limits? I think he could have, except they wouldn't have voted for it. So, congress, you have the same problem with Congress that you have with everybody else. They don't care what the president says. They want what's for them. They want the fact that anything gets done in America in Congress is kind of ridiculous, because they're not representatives. They're there for themselves and they're there to get reelected and to make money and put money in their pockets, and that's unfortunately, the way it's gone for now decades. So do I, but but do I think Obama could have done more if he'd come off of Obamacare? Yes, that said, it didn't happen, so it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1:But ultimately, what Trump gets done, trump is going to need people like and I am amazed to say this if you'd asked me to say this two years ago, I would have said you're crazy. Trump is going to need people like John Fetterman who go okay, yeah, hey, let's see if we can actually work together and figure out some things that'll be good for the country. John Fetterman might be the biggest surprise for me politically in the last 10 years, like Trump coming in in 2016,. That really didn't surprise me, because Trump had been talking about running for president on and off. Even you know he ran at one point in the early 2000s on one of the minor tickets and didn't do anything right. But for pet for for fetterman to come in, have a stroke, win and then be the voice of reason on the side of the democrats. I I wouldn't have thought there's no way. I mean, there were some people I could have picked.
Speaker 1:Betterman, was not it? So my expectations realistically, let's go back to the original question my expectations. I don't have expectations. If you want to go realistic, I expect them to all lie, cheat, cheat and steal and try to put as much money in their pockets as they possibly can. Fair enough, I think that's a good expectation. Probably be mad.
Speaker 2:I am yeah. I am yeah. For the sanity and and sake of the conversation, I'm gonna leave it at that because my expectations I hope that I am wrong on every expectation I have for the administration. I just I don't like when billionaires and corporate interests meet a president who is more concerned about ego than he is about governing and policy. Bad things happen. We've seen it too many times in our history as a country and I just I don't like the way the wind is blowing in terms of policy.
Speaker 2:I don't like the rhetoric that's coming out of the White House. I don't like the fact that nothing that they campaigned on has been spoken about since the election has been won. We completely pivoted. I don't like the fact that the president, after winning the election, came out and blatantly said oh shit, hey man, remember that whole thing about bringing groceries down. I don't think we can do that.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, hey, gas prices.
Speaker 2:Listen man, I don't have no control over that, if we get it down great, but that's not really a priority or concern of mine. I'll try. I mean, I guess I'll try, but you know what's really a concern of mine? I think we should rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of fucking America, because that's important to me. Since when did he campaign on that? I guarantee you had he sat up at a campaign rally and said you know what? The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to change the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. I wonder how many goddamn votes he would have got. Or if he I think a lot.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think that would have played right into the jingoism, oh shit.
Speaker 2:How many people do?
Speaker 1:you think?
Speaker 2:are sitting around. As I'm sitting down looking at my grocery bill, while I'm trying to decide whether I need to buy eggs or I need to buy insulin, I'm thinking to myself. You know what's really important to me right now? We should rename the Gulf of fucking Mexico.
Speaker 1:Jingoism is a huge thing for people. Hey, yeah, that's something I can get behind. Look at how big a fight it was to rename the army bases.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Same reason. I know my grandma needs her insulin. But you know what's more important to me? We should take back the Panama Canal.
Speaker 1:The hell with grandma. Nobody's saying it's the other. We got bigger priorities.
Speaker 2:The Panama Canal is our priority right now. The hell with cabin. You know what? We don't give a shit. The hell with cabin. You know what we don't give a shit about? No damn cabin. You know what? Let that cabin insulin. They were wrong. Ok, I know what the people talk about. The people are in the Midwest, the people sitting in Ohio and Wisconsin, when they sit at their dinner table. The main thing that they are talking about at the dinner table is how we need to annex Springwood. That's what. That's what's important, Right? Margaret Taylor Greene said that her number one priority is changing the goddamn maps.
Speaker 1:That's the important stuff, because that's what they ran. Does it surprise you that she said that though?
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter what it does. I told you I was the train wreck. I've been screaming. I've been screaming from. I've been screaming from the get-go that this is going to be a train wreck of epic proportions. And you know what you did to me? You laughed in my face and you told me I was batshit crazy.
Speaker 1:Do you remember when we talked about this? We said what do people talk about during campaigns? Whatever they need to to get elected right, so this can't be a surprise.
Speaker 2:It's not a surprise to me, but I'm saying I hope I'm wrong for everything I expect. Because when you have a guy like Elon Musk right, when you have a guy like Elon Musk threatening out corporate and I will tell you, my biggest red flag is in December, when Elon Musk tweeted out hey, you should probably relook that bill. And then the damn speaker of the House comes out and says, hey, we should probably relook that bill. That's a red fucking flag.
Speaker 1:Do you think? Do you think, that the first time the Speaker Johnson was told maybe you should take a second look at that bill was him reading it on X?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, because the difference between the difference between Elon Musk and I in the eyes of the government is he's got a whole hell of a lot more influence than I do. Our positions are still the same.
Speaker 1:Here's. Here's to me. This is what's going on. Trump is using Elon Musk to basically be his bully pulpit. Trump can look like the good guy and say hey look, I'm just trying to help the American people, I'm trying to do the right thing. He's getting smart, he's going. I'm going to have somebody else be the sledgehammer. I'm going to have somebody else kind of be the sledgehammer. I'm going to have somebody else be the bad guy, because I was the bad guy for four years. Now. I could be wrong, but to me it seems like that's very possible. Now, on the other side of it and you acknowledge this this has been going on for decades. You know who was giving money to Woodrow Wilson. We haven't finished that.
Speaker 2:Hold tight, you say one and I'll give you an anomaly. Then you bring in guys like Zuckerberg. And then you bring in guys like what's your boy over in Africa sticking people and doing experiments in the name of philanthropy? What's?
Speaker 1:your boy Bill Gates. They're all falling in line.
Speaker 2:I wonder why that's what I'm saying is what I'm saying is what I'm saying is what my grandmama used to tell me. What my grandmama used to tell me is where there's smoke is usually goddamn lightning. And when you start getting a whole bunch of billionaires lining up and they all becoming mighty damn friendly with the damn presidency up and they all becoming mighty damn friendly with the damn presidency- that's a problem.
Speaker 1:Why do you think they're doing that? Go through that, KJ. Why are they getting chummy? Why do you think?
Speaker 2:Because regulation is about to be. Listen, we could go back through this left and right.
Speaker 1:Keep going with that thought.
Speaker 2:We've seen this. When you have the elite get chummy with the government and deregulation occurs on a massive level, bad things happen for common people and I hope to God I'm wrong, because one I don't want to see people die on a massive level because the government never really pays out. It's always oops Right, it's always oopsie with the common man. Hey, sorry man, if only we did, if only we could see this coming right. So I hope I'm wrong. I hope I am so wrong that I have to come on here and apologize for the next four years.
Speaker 1:I do. What deregulation are you worried about that is most likely to put Americans, american lives, at risk?
Speaker 2:Let's see if I had something. Let's see if I had something to go back to. Oh, I do. Let's see we can go back to 45. President 45. Right, he's a fan of deregulation. He cut back the DOT transportation inspection, right. And lo and behold, we had massive fucking train accidents, right. We had the big incident in Pennsylvania three times, matter of fact. That continued to roll into 2020 until the Biden administration said you know what? Enough of that shit, start the inspections, right. Then we had the big food epidemic. That happened because they cut back the food inspections, right For deregulation. That was only minor, because COVID kind of came in and nipped a lot of that shit in the bud. So if you have an unfettered four years of deregulations and no inspections and they say, hey, you don't have to do that, that's concerning man. That is concerning to me.
Speaker 1:One of the biggest train disasters we've had in this country, though, happened under the Biden watch two years in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man you think that shit just automatically happened. No, it deregulates. Yeah, it happened because the policies were cut in 45's administration.
Speaker 1:You said Biden, then came in and put them back in place.
Speaker 2:Yes, after the train wreck he had to. But the reason the train wreck happened is because the infections were cut in 45's rank.
Speaker 1:Hold on. If the deregulations were so important, why didn't Biden come in and put them back into place when he got in office?
Speaker 2:The same reason you just said, the same reason we just talked about earlier. If he has all this other stuff to worry about, that's the last thing on the line. And then something happens. He's like, oh shit, we probably should have paid attention, right? We can't, we can't excuse guys and then come back and say, oh well, he should have known.
Speaker 2:Well, shit, yeah, he should have known, but that probably wasn't his priority. A lot of other shit was going on and it, when b took over, we were trying to recover from a pandemic, so trains were probably low on the totem pole at that point. If we're being honest, if we're going to look at it fair and objectively, trains and public transportation are probably pretty low on the damn priority pole when recovering from a pandemic. You know what I'm saying. If we're going to be objective about it, well, sure, yeah. So so to say, oh well, shit, why didn't he do that? Well, why he should have known about it? Well, yeah, he probably should have. And, all things created equal, had he came in with a fair shake, that probably would have been something that the team would have looked at.
Speaker 1:But KJ I think you're looking at. I don't think cause and effect is in play here, though. Because cause and effect is in play here, though, because if you have, let's just use just the rail system. Let's, let's say just a rail system. Let's say the deregulation doesn't happen. Okay, can you guarantee to me that if the deregulation didn't happen, those train accidents that you're referencing didn't happen or wouldn't have happened? Because when you're talking about the rails in America, you're talking about an entire network that needs trillions of dollars in upgrades. You're talking about something has been neglected for decades, so OK, so you can say, well, it's possible.
Speaker 2:And all it's possible. But what you don't do is you don't say, oh well, you don't take away and say, oh well, it's going to happen anyway. So we're just not going to expect it at all, but it's not not not saying that.
Speaker 1:What I'm saying is the cause and effect is not necessarily there. So, as far as you can look at every presidency and you can look at issues, right, I love what DeSantis said a couple of weeks ago when they were talking to him about the wildfires. And DeSantis is like look, I was told when I first came in as governor, and it's been absolutely true If there's a natural disaster, you people in the press are going to immediately start blaming me, even though I didn't have anything to do with it. I didn't start the hurricane. The governor in California, he didn't like these fires.
Speaker 1:Now there's things we can do as a government that can try to make things lessen and we can try to do things that will help our overall situation. But overall, things happen, especially with nature. So when we're looking at some of the stuff that Trump is going to do, there's going to be stuff that happens, stuff's going to go wrong over the next four years. I would hope that the things that go wrong it's kind of like the uh, what was her name? Lincoln riley that got that got murdered?
Speaker 1:um, the girl yeah riley wasn't that her name? Link, something like that anyway. Do I blame biden for that? No, do I blame the policies for that. I mean, it's possible, but possible. But I look at that and go that's where you have to have the risk reduction. And maybe that's what you're saying is hey, we need regulation to have risk reduction. And that would at least potentially, if the odds of the derailing of that train were 70% and after deregulation it went down to 67 percent, hey, even that three percent really matters. Certain things I agree with. It does matter.
Speaker 1:You know, illegal immigrants, I think on on the right there's people who say, well, if these immigrants weren't here, you know, none of these crimes would have happened. You have people on the left say, oh no, there still would have been these crimes. And I look at that and go, well, wait a minute, if an illegal is not here, then that crime would not have been committed, point blank. It just doesn't work like that. That said, you're never going to eliminate crime completely. You're never going to eliminate people coming in illegally. The money's just too too big. The drugs you're never going to eliminate the drugs until you make it not economically viable to make it happen. So as far as everything with Trump goes, and deregulation, until it doesn't make sense financially for people, it's going to continue to happen.
Speaker 1:And if you want to say, like there are certain things, deregulation I'm all for. I don't think anything should be regulated online outside of children and porn, child porn, some of those things. If you're an adult, you want to go online and you want to whatever, go for it, but with kids I think that's where I go hold on and that's kind of when we've talked about the book, that that's where I go hold on. And that's kind of when, when we've talked about the, the book banning and I say, look, if somebody wants to ban a book in an elementary school, fine, but you don't ban it from the County library because there's there's a difference. If, as a parent, I want to go in and show them, um, but a parent going in and showing an eight year old porn, I think the parents should be arrested. So there's just certain things that I think regulation really needs to be limited. But the regulation that's in place needs to be there for a very specific reason and that specific reason should be very clearly stated to protect the people of the United States from a very specific harm, not just hey, we think this might be kind of bad, so we're going to have this law that says whatever, because then they pick and choose.
Speaker 1:Look at the Biden administration. They were picking and choosing with the COVID vaccines. I just saw a thing today that said the original, one of the original polio vaccines, a certain brand of polio vaccine. It killed 25 people. It was pulled off the market. A different vaccine 28 people pulled off.
Speaker 1:And then you get down to where the COVID vaccine and you have literally thousands and thousands of injuries and or deaths and it really didn't do anything. Almost every study that's coming out is saying there was almost no efficacy. It basically didn't make anything if you got COVID, any less all this stuff, but it's still on the market. Why? Who was investing? And that's where I go. Who was investing and that's where I go. Wait a minute, that's where the government should have gone in. I'm way more worried about bill gates and and fauci having a cut of pfizer and that vaccine still being on the market not only being on the market, people pushing for it to be an annual vaccine. I haven't let my kids get it and I won't let my kids get it and I won't let my kids get it so certain things should have regulation.
Speaker 2:You got to push that back a little bit, though, because that wasn't, that wasn't, that wasn't. 46 is called, that was 45 is called, and his lightning and his lightning implementations.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying and if and here's the thing if 46 had come out, if 46 and the FDA had come out six months in and they said look, the problem is with the vaccine is that it is killing people here's the documentation I would have been the first one saying, yeah, trump screwed up. Yeah, they should have.
Speaker 2:I mean, two wrongs don't make it right, two wrongs don't make it right. But we got to. We got to make sure that we assign the blame appropriately. Make it right, but we gotta we gotta make sure that we assign the blame appropriately. We can't say we can't, we can't sit back and be like, oh, there's a lot of people, but no, that wasn't biting, biting, didn't push that shit through government it was the government, but our government killing us on purpose.
Speaker 1:But if you remember biden and the democrats did a 180 on on the covid vaccines when it first started going. You remember nancy plosy? I will never take a vaccine. That was authorized by president Trump and as soon as Biden got in place, everybody needs to take this vaccine. It's the greatest thing ever. I mean it was. It was all political. What's the bet that Nancy Pelosi had money in in Pfizer?
Speaker 2:Everybody had money Like it's the same thing now. That's why. That's why I'm against. That's why I'm against allowing them to have access to stocks that they can invest in. That's dumb Agreed. But, yeah, all right, so we got to move on because we are burning time. All right, allie, let's talk about your confirmation hearing, how you been following along with this week's confirmation hearings Anything stuck out to you, anything exciting?
Speaker 3:you know, um, I've I've tried to watch as much as I could and and, to be very honest, um, I think it's been pretty, um, pretty disgusting. Uh, as far as the democratic questioning of of um, um, the candidates you know to, I get questioning them, but to question them on a personal level and attacking their past, you know mistakes and focusing on that, them, focusing on the job that they're there, trying to get a confirmation for. You know, um, like the Bondi girl Gal I can't think of her first name all of a sudden, but you know, and Hexif, like attacking him for you know an affair that he had. And then you read all over Facebook well, I don't want you know somebody who's going to cheat on their wife to you know, in this position, and it's like I bet there's very few congressmen and people in Washington that haven't cheated, you know, and so I thought it was really really messed up.
Speaker 3:Honestly, like I don't think you know, I'm sitting there listening and I'm listening to the questions and wanting to get decent answers and you know, on why this person is going to help, you know, run this country and make decisions, and I didn't get it. It was like there was times in some of these questionings that, you know it, they were laughing and, uh like, uh, represent Sheehy. You know, there was all these little jokes and I thought I, I kept on saying to myself you know, this shouldn't be a joke and this shouldn't be. Um, you know something that any of us on either side take lightly.
Speaker 3:I mean, these are people that are being charged, and so I kind of found it disheartening a little bit to watch them and I did turn it off for a bit because I'm like this isn't. I don't think this is how it's supposed to be. This is not. You know, you got one side over here, you know, asking questions and then going. You know you're a good person and I and dah dah, dah, dah personally, and then over here you're a cheater and I'm like this isn't a soap opera. This is the country this is. We need to take this more seriously and I watching this week, I just I didn't see that. I didn't see anybody really taking it seriously and I honestly felt bad in some cases for those being questioned.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you though the Secretary of Defense having an affair does not disqualify you, when the vast majority of people in the military have had affairs as well.
Speaker 3:It puts me in line with you. Yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, and I'm not trying to Drinking, and affairs in the military.
Speaker 1:Where are my pearls?
Speaker 3:You know and it's like, but you know, they brought so many people brought that up, and then it was just, I don't know. It was like very confusing and disheartening. It's like, you know, focus on their experience in that job and what they can do and questions. And you know, um, then they were asking questions will you tell president, president Trump? No, will you? And it's like, and they were like well, we haven't read the files, we haven't read the records, but you know, if that needs to be done, then yes, I didn't understand that answer. It was a very one-sided question that would benefit one side than both. So it was disheartening to me. I thought it was kind of joking.
Speaker 1:I didn't watch Bondi, but I read something, so I don't know if this is true, but it's great if she did. It said Adam Schiff asked her are you going to investigate me and somebody else and somebody else if President Trump tells you to? And she said is there anybody else you're telling me I shouldn't investigate so I can write their name down and have the list? And I don't think it happened. I think I read that. I was like that's hilarious. I would have loved it if she'd said that, because to me the hearings look, she was none of them, none of them got as bad as the Kavanaugh hearing, and so for that I'm grateful, because the Kavanaugh, I thought, was so just ridiculous. But as far as, as far as these hearings, there's not a single KJ. And I think we're I think it was you KJ.
Speaker 1:I said that if Matt Gates had just decided to stay in, he would have been fine If he just yeah, if he just said, hey, you know what, I've been nominated, he would have been fine because look at Hegseth, everybody was, so it's going to get approved. And, worst case scenario, I think you'd have a situation where they actually do something with Congress and they do the recess appointments for anybody else that he wants to do. It would just mean you wouldn't have somebody in that post for a little bit. But overall, I don't know. I think it's all.
Speaker 1:The hearings are what they've seemed to be for the past, however long. They're a way for individuals to get on TV and spotlight and look how smart I am. Or or hey, look, I'm going to get my message out. I'm going to support President Trump, no matter what. Listen to me. Or hey, I'm somebody who's against me. So I'm going to make a point that sounds really good. That has nothing to do with anything, it doesn't matter. I mean most of this stuff, most of the stuff, it's all showboating, it's all like if this stuff wasn't televised, nobody would care. It'd be like oh, did has, hey, did, do we have everybody now? Is everybody approved? Anybody else we need to worry about now? Out now, okay.
Speaker 3:So while I'm all for it, I'm all yeah I was gonna say, and I heard I can't remember who said it they were like um, you're here because you support trump, you're a trump supporter. And and I was thinking to myself, yeah, well, yeah, he, yeah, that's exactly right. They support Trump and they, you know, agree with his policies and because those people supported him, you know, or whatever, and I almost thought it was just very comical, almost I didn't feel like it was something that was happening. You know, in Washington that people were taking seriously, it was just let's go in and support an attack, you know, let's punch. And I just didn't get it.
Speaker 3:And, like you said, lance, you know, if it wasn't televised, nobody would listen to it and the only information anybody would get would be what they get on the news on mainstream media and who knows? You know, I just I don't even understand why they do it. Just let him pick his cabinet, whoever the president Is, and carry on. You know, everybody, there's going to be people that Are going to disagree and agree, and it's not going to make Anything different. I just hope for the Best, I guess.
Speaker 1:So I'm watching, just I'm looking Over there, because Baltimore and Buffalo Baltimore just went down scored with 90 Second seconds to go down by two. Lamar Jackson rolled out, put the ball into the bread basket of Andrews and he dropped it. Baltimore is going to lose unless they get the onside kick, that play. I feel so bad, mark andrews, that he just dropped a perfect pass that would have tied the game. If he was a soccer player, he'd be getting death threats, uh, over the weekend. So just a little, just I had to had to say that we can prove that this is live. That's kt. Did you have any thoughts? Did you have any thoughts? Did you have any thoughts on the confirmation or it's kind of like meh just more mediocre, unqualified people getting pushed through just like and KJ.
Speaker 1:That's the thing, like what Ali was saying about them attacking personally. I think if they'd asked what your concern with Hegseth would have been, I think that's a much more appropriate question. Well, so go ahead and reiterate what you kind of what your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:I don't.
Speaker 2:I didn't expect any of his nominees to get disqualified unless they do something Matt Gates is, which is go out and grandstand as long as they, as long as they follow the script, which is shut up and just ride and just you know, go in and play the game, They'll be fine. Like I said, the last, over the last couple of administrations, the confirmation hearings I think Kavanaugh was like the biggest one right where it got to a point to where people just want to get in there and make a point right Like you're not objective, You're not there to find out if they're the best candidate or not. Your main goal is just to sit up there and see if you can get that gotcha moment right. You want to get that viral clip or that social media clip so somebody can play your clip on the news.
Speaker 2:Nobody gives a shit about whether this candidate you know who this candidate is, or what they believe in or what their true values is Right. We ask dumb ass questions, or? Or you know who you slept with, or what do you drink? I don't give a. I don't give a shit about that. You're a secretary of defense. I need to know what your policies are. I want to know what your?
Speaker 2:stance on emergencies are. Those are the questions, as a senator, that I need to care about, right? You know what I'm saying, and I don't think our Congress is at that point anymore, and that's why I said you know, we're too far gone in there. I don't believe the SecDef nominee is qualified for the position. I thought it was a horrible nomination, but I also realized that he's going to get nominated either way, as long as he just shut the hell up and play along. But then again, he's just one of several nominees that are just absolutely unqualified for the positions that they're nominated for and they're going to get qualified for.
Speaker 1:Well, that goes back to your agent of chaos thing. That goes back to your agent of chaos thing.
Speaker 2:No, it's easy.
Speaker 1:What I mean is Hegseth is either going to do a lot of damage in the DOD in a short amount of time or he's going to break things loose and potentially make things better in a short amount of time. I don't think there's a lot in between.
Speaker 2:I've never seen a segment of people been so vehemently against DEI and for DEI at the same damn time.
Speaker 2:And that's what drives me so crazy about society, right, you'll have a segment of people get up there and champion, beating themselves on the chest. We need to be a meritocracy, we need to have only the best and brightest and we need to pull ourselves up our bootstraps Right brightest. And we need to pull ourselves up our bootstraps right and then turn right around and realize that the only reason I am in this position is because of my relational appropriation to this guy, right and no other way if we were to hold up a blind if we would hold up a blind resume of peak hexed against anybody else in that position.
Speaker 2:Right, we took the name and the relationship off and we say here is a National Guard captain who deployed to Iraq twice and he has two combat bronze stars, right, and he was a Fox News anchor, and that's all the information I give you. And he runs a nonprofit and he got investigated twice for misappropriating funds in that nonprofit. Right, and that's all the information I give you. And we're going to nominate him for the highest position in our defense department. Right, would you vote for him confidently? I know you would.
Speaker 1:But that's not dei, that's basically, it's nepotism basically.
Speaker 2:But whatever the word for no, no, the reason why I say, the reason why I said dei, because we weaponized the word dei. Because we say dei. The only reason you're a dei hire? Because you're not qualified for that, for that position. And the only reason you're a DEI hire because you're not qualified for that position and the only reason you were placed in that position is because somebody put you there, or else you wouldn't be there. That's the only reason we use DEI. Right, we use it because we say, oh, the person is a DEI hire because had they not been a black woman or white or whoever, white woman or whoever, there's no other way they'd be in that position, except for the fact that they will put in that position. Right.
Speaker 2:And if you look at pete heads up, if you look at pete heads up in his resume, he is the definition of a dei hire because his resume is shit. Twice he was kicked off of. Twice he was kicked off of a nonprofit for mismanaging funds. Twice, twice he was a fucking commander of a National Guard unit as a captain Major. No, no, he was in a major position, but he was a captain.
Speaker 1:Are you sure I?
Speaker 2:thought he was a major. Trust me, I've looked at it several times. This guy, this guy who you're putting as the sec def, he was in a major position, right, major position, same thing with the whole Sergeant Major thing, right, remember, the Sergeant Major Vice President.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm a Sergeant Major. No, you're not Right, same thing.
Speaker 1:So he was a major. Yeah, you're either a major or you're not.
Speaker 2:Same thing. So he was either major or not. Yeah, he was a major, yeah, he's a major, but he was a cat, right, oh three, so he's a sectarian. Right now you can say whatever hey man, I want somebody fresh, I want somebody different, cool, whatever. But if you hold his resume up, right, and you can say, ok, we're doing this strictly off of meritocracy, there is no way in hell you can justify this guy's position. Right, I'll do you one better. I'll take your secretary of health. Right, your secretary of health. He's going through confirmation hearings next week. You hold his resume up right, blind resume. You take that name off. You tell me what the fuck qualifies the secretary of health for that position. Not a goddamn thing. But but we'll say what we'll say is we have a DEI problem in this country? We'll say, we'll say we have a problem with putting people in positions that don't qualify. But then we'll turn right back around and we'll champion DEI like it's nothing, because it's okay when my team does it.
Speaker 1:So, KJ, I don't think it's okay either way, but you're arguing. Tell me what qualified Pete Buttigieg to be the secretary of the transportation.
Speaker 2:Not a damn thing, but that's the whole point. It's the whole point. We can't have it both ways. We can't sit back and beat our chest and say, oh, I believe in meritocracy and the best man should win. Yada, yada, yada, yada yada. This is the only way, right?
Speaker 2:I think if we would have played a drinking game for the confirmation hearing and you let the sec dev nominee out of his own mouth and we said, every time he says meritocracy, take a drink, we'd have passed out about 45 minutes into it, knowing good and goddamn well, knowing good and goddamn well, he hadn't pulled himself up from his bootstraps in a very long fucking time. But you get what I'm saying, but but we sit back and we sit back. This. But his whole platform is we have a problem systemically in the, in the armed forces, with policies that are, that are around. This is why I have a problem, right, because your whole champion, your whole platform, your whole issue is saying, hey, we have a policy with people being in positions that they don't belong in because of fucked up policies, but the only reason you're in the position you're in is because of a fucked up policy. So then, how can I effectively trust you? How can I trust you?
Speaker 1:What policy? What policy is messed up that put him in that position?
Speaker 2:What do you mean? His, his, his, his woke policy? Right, his woke policy. He's saying oh, we got a position. His words, where it's got it.
Speaker 1:Let me, let me make my point here. What you just said though, yeah, you're saying he's coming in and saying the DEI hires in the book and you said the only reason that has Hegseth is in this position is because of a messed up policy. Right, the policy that's messed up is the president gets to nominate whoever he wants because he won the election. I don't have an issue with that.
Speaker 2:But you can't turn right back around and say, ok. You can't turn right back around and say, hey, I'm going to get rid of, I'm going to get rid of the same policy that got me in a position that I'm in. That's, that's what. That's my thing, but it's not. But it's not.
Speaker 1:This is an apple and oranges, this is an apple. It is because you're talking. What you said and why Hegseth is in this position is because of his relationship with Trump ridiculous. Why would trump pick this guy? He's unqualified. There's a difference between that and a policy that says if you have certain things in place, you have to hire a certain number of people, and hegseth. One of the things hegseth said during the confirmation he said look, there is no policy. Okay, there is no policy in place, that there is an unwritten policy in place.
Speaker 2:That's the same shit that got him put in the position. Though, Dude, you're going back and forth.
Speaker 1:The same unwritten policy. Kj, I'm not, kj, I'm not. Listen, listen, okay, wow, go ahead. I'm agreeing with you that the reason that Hegseth was in the place is based on the relationship that he has with Trump. Ok, so A battalion commander and I'm not going to say which battalion, I'm not going to say which commander, any of that. I had a battalion commander flat out tell me he had to put a black, an African-American female because of the choices he'd already made, because if he didn't, he was going to get looked at. It's not a policy, but it's an unwritten rule in the military right now that if you KJ, I'm telling you, man, you can shake your head.
Speaker 2:Listen, listen, listen. As far as Listen, that's bullshit. He's as far as that's what? Listen, that's bullshit. He could, he could say that, but that's his belief. That's no different. That's no different than me coming in and saying well shit, I guess I got to hire a white guy because my staff's got full. You know, I got an African-American staff. That's the difference.
Speaker 1:That's the difference On the other side. On the other side I asked another. I asked I know somebody else, female, female battalion commander. Her entire staff was female. And I asked somebody that was very close to her. I said did she ever feel like she had to hire somebody that was male because she only had females? And he goes no, that was never a consideration, because it's the right side of the quote-unquote dei now, but there's no right side that.
Speaker 2:Listen man. We canI, but there's no right side. Listen man, you can't blame people for your perceived fucking guilt. If you hire an all-white staff, that's your decision as a command. Nobody gives a fuck If you come back and say, well, hey, I hired five white guys because these five white guys averaged 290 on the PT test. These five white guys shoot expert, as long as you can justify why you have the five fucking white guys. But what you can't do and here's the issue, what you can't do is you can't say I got five white guys and they're all fucking fat and they all can't and they're all on fucking profile, while you got these stud ass goddamn lieutenants sitting on the side.
Speaker 3:And that's where the problem comes in.
Speaker 2:But see ass, goddamn lieutenant, sitting on the side, and that's where the problem comes in. But see, that's where the problem and that's the information that you missed. So you'll come back and you'll say okay, this commander will come back and say, well, I guess I gotta hire a black guy, because well, shit, if I don't, somebody, look at me, no asshole. What you gotta do is you gotta find the five most qualified people, and if it just so happens that all five of them are white, then the rest of the motherfuckers need to step their game up.
Speaker 1:That's a true marriage. I will tell you right now that OER, that officer evaluation report for that battalion commander, will say this battalion commander is not cognizant of the diversity of his force and that will be a bullet point on his evaluation. Bullshit, that's playing the what if game. Not bullshit, that's bullshit. You can play the what if game all you want. It's happening. That's not happening, okay, that's not happening. That's not happening. It's anecdotal, but it's happening. It's not happening Okay.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm sure there's instances. I mean shit, there's instances here, there's instances all around. But I mean to sit back and say, ok, well, I have to have. No, no, fuck, you don't. Because who the fuck's going to sit back and say, ok, I got five stud commanders in my battalion and all five of these white dudes are fucking rocking. All five of these black dudes are fucking rocking. Right, all five of these commanders are the best of the damn best.
Speaker 2:I don't give a shit what you. You could be goddamn space Martians from goddamn Neptune, right? I don't care, as long as you, as long as I can look back and my paperwork says that, hey, who the fuck you gonna put up? Because if I put these five commanders against your five commanders, we're coming out on top any time. No brigade commander's gonna come against you. You can't, because I can quantify it. But what happens is you'll have that old buddy rope. Hey man, I know this guy needs it. Here's what happens. Oh, this guy needs it. Oh, don't worry about such and such, don't worry about such and such.
Speaker 1:I have to look out for this guy. Aj, I've lost top blocks because of stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But that's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:That's not meritocracy though I agree that's not meritocracy. Though I agree it's not meritocracy. That's my point is it's not meritocracy, that's the whole point.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, allie, we got into a military thing. Hey, this is fun.
Speaker 1:What's our next one? What's our last one? We only have 13 minutes. What's our?
Speaker 3:last one.
Speaker 1:We got a little poggy on that. Yeah, we'll get back to that.
Speaker 2:Anyway, so tomorrow. Here's your time to shine. This is it. So tomorrow we celebrate the man in America. I don't know if you guys are excited, but I'm always excited. Allie, what are your thoughts.
Speaker 3:You know I am excited. I'm actually extremely excited. I'll be watching. You know I have, like I said before, I have the highest hopes. I have concerns. I know that I think it was today. They said they're moving it indoors is so much hate for him and I don't.
Speaker 3:I the division of you know America right now is through everything from its citizens up to Washington. It's just so divided and it's sad and I um, I don't hate him, but you know, I have know a lot of people that do and that have nonstop complained and bitched since the day you know he was elected and I pray for this country. I pray for the country, no matter who the president is, that all will go well. But I am very excited. I honestly believe that we're going to see some good changes. You know, going back to what you guys were talking about just a few minutes ago, and you know when any president runs. You know they do make a lot of promises and sometimes I think you have to take it with a grain of salt that you know, even though you are the president of the United States and you know one of the most powerful men or women in the world, you can't go in on day one and make everything perfect. It's not going to happen, but I am very excited, I'm hoping for the best. Again, I'm the first one that if it doesn't go the way, I'm hoping that I will say, hey, you know what, I made a mistake and maybe, but I don't think that's going to happen, because if the other had won I think it would I would definitely have a lot more concerns, um, about you know, the um, the state of the country. But, um, I hope it goes safe. I hope everybody stays safe. I hope there's no psychotic, idiotic people that causes problems. Um, I feel bad.
Speaker 3:You know, I think it's kind of childish that there's a lot saying that they're not coming out to the inauguration and I think that the drama that has unfolded with those that are participating in the inauguration, the singers, and the backlash they're getting, I just think it all needs to stop. There's so much crap. There's so much I hate you because you like him and I don't like you because you like her, and it just needs to stop. You know, I I've told my husband many times and I've told my family I wish that we could have 9-12 again, and what I mean by that is. I don't want 9-11 to happen, ever, ever. But if you look about how this country was on 9-12, that's what I wished we could go back to. And you know, everybody just be as one, and I know that's like this amazing picture in my head unicorns and rainbows and all of that. I had unicorns and rainbows and all of that, but I just wish there was something that could be done that the division of this whole country, you know, and the fact celebrating the most hatred, you know, hated man in America, that's that's kind of sad when you think about it.
Speaker 3:There's never going to be anybody that's going to be fully happy and and but I'm excited, I'm excited to watch it. I'm going to be anybody that's going to be fully happy and and but I'm excited, I'm excited to watch it. I'm going to be watching it. I'll probably tear up. Um, you know, I, I just pray, I pray, I prayed for the country the last four years that, uh, you know that the right decisions would be made and that God would watch over and protect us all, the right decisions would be made and that God would watch over and protect us all. And I will continue to do that for the next four years and pray for President Trump that nothing happens to him and that all this nonsense will just stop. But I'm excited, I'm hoping for the best changes and, yeah, that's where I stand on it. I'm totally excited, 100%.
Speaker 2:Chaffee what you got.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what time the inauguration is at. I legitimately do not. I know it's tomorrow. I don do not. I know it's tomorrow, I don't know. I am it's. I remember when, when the election happened, I had a friend who after a couple of days she posted something like I'm so depressed after the last three days and having to worry about Trump coming in and blah blah blah and I wrote to her days and having to worry about Trump coming in and blah, blah blah. And I wrote to her. I said if you are that concerned and it's affecting your mental health because a politician won or lost, you are too involved and you need to step back.
Speaker 3:I read that I laughed, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't, I don't care. I mean, like, realistically, the fact that Trump is coming in or Harris would have come in, on my day to day stuff probably doesn't get affected all that much, and being military is probably more than most, but overall probably not that much. Tomorrow's Martin Luther King Jr holiday Great we could be celebrating. Junior holiday, great we could be celebrating. And so I hope President Trump mentions that that, for all the things that King did and for all the changes and all the progress we've made in the past six years, I hope that on Tuesday he lays out his agenda and I hope on Wednesday Congress sits down and starts doing their freaking jobs and gets a budget that can be done and that moving the next hundred days means the government is actually doing what they're supposed to be doing. I hope they go through and they slash all the red tape that they can. That makes sense. I hope that the Democrats, those that say hey, maybe, maybe now is the time to actually start looking at stuff and get off the, the anti you know the, the I'm blanking on the word when you're against everything the antithesis, maybe we need to actually start trying to get and I'll tell you what if the Democrats do that? I will applaud them, because I think there's times that the Republicans, especially with Obama, probably should have done the same thing. They should have said hey, you know what? He won his second term. We need to get off the fence and we need to actually let's get down to governing. So I hope that happens and I don't.
Speaker 1:I think, actually, in the environment we're in, I think it's possible, because I do think you're going to see some people like Fetterman do that and I think you're going to have the people like AOC continue to squawk and not really matter that much. But overall, tomorrow's Monday and it's a federal holiday, and I think I'm more excited that it's Martin Luther King Jr holiday than it is inauguration. I mean, cool, it's the inauguration, I'm excited to get past it, just because, like with on Election Day, it was like oh, finally, ok, we're done, we move on the next one. Same thing I do. I have a thought, though. Let's say, tonight Russia launches a nuclear weapon at Kiev, who's answering the phone for that response? Is it Biden? Is it someone else? I'm very curious because we saw that stuff about Biden moving out of the White House this weekend. But I just I, I think it's probably the same person who's been governing for the past six months, but whoever that committee is, but overall, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's still got to be Biden man. I'm excited. I'm excited. Every year, we celebrate the most hated man in America in my house. So, 1967, a poll. A poll highlighted that 75 percent of Americans decided that Martin Luther King Jr was the most hated man in America, both black and white Americans. So ever since then since 1967, my family has made a tradition of celebrating his birthday, which is 15th, but since it became a national holiday in the 80s, the 20th and celebrating as the most hated man in America day, as we like to call it affectionately, in our, in our home. So we will be proudly celebrating that day with, uh, with the wife and kids, um, so we have activities and stuff planned uh geared towards that.
Speaker 2:I will be taking uh the for the 46th uh inaugurations approach and abstaining myself from the inauguration um and the festivities of such um, nothing personal, just something I'm just not interested in. We got other stuff to do.
Speaker 1:I haven't watched an inauguration and I couldn't tell you the last time I watched one.
Speaker 2:I can tell you, the last time I watched it you want to take a guess Obama.
Speaker 3:Together 2009.
Speaker 2:2009 and 2013. That was the last two, but um, but no, no it's a 13 one also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course. Yeah, but other than that, um, other than that, I mean, uh, I wish him well. I'm excited. Um, like I said, I'm excited man, I am hopeful.
Speaker 2:Um, I know, we talked about offline, we talked about that Chappelle monologue, which was absolutely phenomenal. Um, and then this will go into our final thought. Um, which was absolutely phenomenal, and then this will go into our final thought. I hope the CTR network don't get mad. We'll run over a couple of minutes for our final thoughts, but I feel it's apropos that we get this out and I'll start since I already started. Hey, if you haven't had a chance yet, please go check out that SNL opening monologue from Dave Chappelle. It was an absolute masterpiece. I know people have their own thoughts about where SNL has gone over the years, but I will tell you, by and far, this was a an absolute masterpiece of comedic genius by Dave Chappelle. I have thought for years he had already ascended to Carlin and and prior level in terms of comedic timing and being one of the greats, but this was just an absolute masterclass and it was fantastic.
Speaker 2:The points were outstanding. The commentary was even more poignant and it wasn't your typical. You know I'm on this side and I blame that side. It wasn't anything. It was literally just a feat of rationalism and I think it kind of touches to the points that we touched on today and that's my final thoughts. Allie, you want to go next?
Speaker 3:Sure, you know, I'll take it, just maybe a slightly different direction, as my final thought is you know, I hope we all come together. I pray for this country, I pray for all of us that you know this new, this next four years, is promising and everybody gets a little bit happier, a little bit that they need to make their lives a little bit easier. And it's a privilege and an honor, I feel, to be an American, to be a veteran's wife. I know what he deals with and goes through and how much in our little family we love this country and we love the flag. And I wish the best for President Trump. I wish the best for Biden now in his health or whatever he chooses to do, and I think we just need to start coming together as Americans and stop the you're Republican, I'm Democrat and just realize that we are one.
Speaker 3:And lastly, big time pray for those in California. It's a huge mess. There are brothers and sisters as Americans and we need to pray for them. Such a tragedy, such a loss there and the same with the people in the Carolinas. You know we need to continue to pray for them and hopefully they get the assistance that they need sooner than later, but we just need to come together and stop this nonsense of hate and get over it and put God first in all of our lives and, uh, we'll be okay, we'll be okay. Appreciate you guys for uh, your podcast and letting me be on here and, um, let's do it. Let's make the next four years okay and make it great, maga whoo what you got well.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure if ctr had a hard cut, because I'm watching it and I think oh, what'd you get?
Speaker 1:Well, I'm not sure if CTR had a hard cut, cause I'm watching it and I think they hard cut it, but that's cool. I will say this Uh, my daughter, I had this up and my daughter said it says best chaplain in the world. Why would you put that? I said I didn't put it, Somebody else did. So live up to the. Live up to the positive labels that somebody puts on you and prove somebody wrong. If they put a bad label on you, I'll call it that there you go.
Speaker 2:Alright, same bet time, same bet channel next week. Man, it's been a blessing. Guys, I'll talk to you guys next week.
Speaker 1:We out. Bye Jeez man, what do you want to do tonight?
Speaker 2:The same thing we do every night. Pinky, Try to take over the world. All right, yo, let's get into it. Try to take over the world.
Speaker 1:You're preaching freedom.
Speaker 2:Try to take over the world and greatest chaplain in the world, mr Lance O'Neill. Take over the world and chaplain in the world, over the world, yo yo.
